In my summary post of 2021 I promised that we would be posting more tactica and army lists in the coming year. What better way to start that than with a kit I received for Christmas?
So the first question is what should you build? As with all tank kits I personally feel they’re way to expensive to build as a single kit with set loadout so like with all my other kits I will be magnetising the kit to make both the Manticore and the Deathstrike – I’ll post a how to once I’ve figured it out myself! 🙂
Manticore
Courtesy of the GW 40k app and Warhammer+
The Manticore is almost a standard go to unit for competition Militarum lists, with board wide range not needing line of sight and 2D6 shots hitting at S10. You only have four rockets per game, but on average a single rocket can deliver 3 hits and will wound T5 targets on 2+. But you’re probably not going to want to expend your ammo on troops, but the enemies much loved tanks however are a different kettle of fish. This will wound most tanks on 3+ meaning out of your seven shots, two to three will wound on average, with one or two of those likely to get through the targets armour after the -2 AP. With D3 damage per hit which can be improved to a flat 3 damage if you give Tank Aces: Full Payload, this will mean you’re taking on average between two to three wounds off your target in the turn (or 6 with Full Payload).
Target Toughness/Save
Av Shots
Hits
Wounds
Unsaved
T6+ with 3+ Save
7
3.5
2.3
1.5
Up to T5 with 3+ Save
7
3.5
2.9
1.9
Now that doesn’t sound ground-breaking, but remember that’s average, if you’re rolling well and you have Full Payload equipped the tank will do a further three wounds for each unsaved hit, that’s some serious punch.
The drawback is the Militarum ballistic skill, with 4+ only half your shots may hit your targets. You can improve this, firstly with an additional five points you can purchase an Augur array which will allow you to re-roll a single failed hit roll per battle for that Manticore, well worth the points if successful.
For one CP you can also use the Direct Onslaught stratagem from Psychic Awakening: The Greater Good. This allows the Manticore to add 1 to its hit roll if it can see it’s target.
I would take two Manticores in any list where I’m looking to include them. Keep them out of sight and just use them to bombard enemy high toughness targets. You’re taking two for redundancy options as your opponent will soon destroy them once he realises what they can do.
Make sure you include the 5pt Hunter-Killer missile for the single S10 shot that’s AP-2 and can do D6 damage (or flat 6 if you have Full Payload equipped). Worth the points! I then choose the Heavy Flamer and Stubber for defensive purposes in case anyone decides to charge it.
Manticore (160 points) – Augur array – Heavy Flamer – Heavy Stubber – Hunter-Killer missile
So the results of last weeks votes are as follows:
Factions
Now we’ve got most (if not all) of the basic information in place for our game we can start getting our hands dirty with some of the nitty gritty stuff. Firstly, should we have pre-made ready to go factions or should players have options to construct their own units for their own faction? This would make the game miniature agnostic but it would also require players to take the time to build a faction from the ground up, i.e. this is a leader unit it needs this particular weapon, with this armour and these special rules.
Of course we could always have a mixture of both pre-made and create your own. But what do you think?
Turn Order
This is about how the players determine who goes first. There are many options for this, but I’ve narrowed this down to two or three, but bear 🐻 in mind these can also have vary to some extent. For example, while AoS is a UgoIgo system it also implements the turn priority in terms of a dice roll before each turn.
I Go You Go
This is the first and possibly most common option used. Players use a mechanic to determine who goes first and then play is simply alternated between the players until the end of the game.
Draw
Players use coloured dice or chips to represent their individual units on the table e.g. one players units are represented by red dice while the others are blue, when a red dice is drawn the red player chooses a unit to activate. This system will be familiar to those who have played Warlord Games Bolt Action.
Initiative
This could either be an army wide initiative rating or individual initiative ratings for units to decide what order they act in. For example, elite units may have a much higher initiative than conscripts meaning they’ll always act first.
Bidding
One of my personal favourites is using bidding systems to determine who acts first. This can take various forms such as rolling a number of orders each side can take on two or three dice then giving up a number of those orders to try and claim the priority that turn.
So which is your favourite? Perhaps there’s one I’ve not even thought of, I’d that’s the case why not add a comment below?
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About a month ago, the legend that is Dave invited me to play a few games of Warhammer Fantasy with him in the coming year. I jumped at the opportunity, and what better army to play with than my old Dwarfs!
I’ve always had a soft spot for these boys ever since I started in Warhammer way back in 93′.
This would also be the perfect opportunity for me to start rebasing them back on to their proper SQUARE bases as is only right! It also means that by the time Old World gets released I may have a fully painted and functional army from the off!
We’re starting out in Fantasy with the Grudge of Drong as Dave has previously mentioned, and for the first battle in the series I need to muster a small force of 1,500 points.
The first battle takes place in Grudge Pass as an Elven force blocks the road to advancing Dwarfs looking to topple Queen Helga from her throne whom the Elves have allied themselves with.
In this case, Dave is replacing the Elves and using his old Empire army. However, I will be using the Dwarfs. The suggested order of battle is below, but this is a 5th edition campaign box and we’re going be playing with 8th edition rules so I will need to adjust this slightly.
We’re going to be using 8th Edition rules, so my force will look something like this:
Dwarf Lord
Master Engineer
Runesmith
Battle Standard Bearer
15 Warriors
10 Warriors
10 Longbeards
10 Thunderers
10 Ironbreakers
10 Miners
10 Miners
This is by no means a competitive army , but then its not meant to be as this is a narrative campaign and we’re playing to act a story out rather than attempting to table our opponent.
Some of these models are already painted, they just need rebasing!
I’ve still a fair whack to get through as well as rebasing the above models!
Following on from Declan’s article last week where he covered a competitive list that could be made using the Start Collecting! Ogor Mawtribes boxed set, we continue this week with a look at the Start Collecting! Anvilgard set.
What’s in the box……!?
1 Black Ark Fleetmaster
1 Kharibdyss, this can also be built as a War Hydra
10 Black Ark Corsairs
1 Scourgerunner Chariot, this can also be built as a Drakespawn Chariot
13 miniatures, including a hero a chariot and a monster.
One of the best things about the Start Collecting! boxes are the savings. In this case, (as of 18/12/21 in GBP) the box is £60 and the collected contents, if purchased individually, retail for £100 giving a sweet £40 saving (or a free Kharibdyss/War Hydra, if you prefer).
What is Anvilgard?
Anvilgard – A lovely place to visit…. Wish you were here!
Anvilgard is a subfaction of the Cities of Sigmar faction in the Order Grand Alliance for Age of Sigmar, to play the army you will need a copy of the Cities of Sigmar Battletome.
Anvilgard, also known as the City of Scales was a port city in the realm of Aqshy on the Charrwind coast. The city is surrounded by jungle and the Ironweld Arsenal constantly pump out defoliants which shroud the city in a stinking fug. The city was dominated by Blackscale Coil crime syndicate and has some interesting rules which align with this lore. This City of Sigmar fell to the forces of Morathi during the events of Broken Realms: Morathi but is still a playable subfaction in the game.
The background and the rules for Anvilgard encourage the use of our monster and the Privateers, so the box actually fits really well with the lore for the city.
Fans of Warhammer Fantasy will note that if they have an old Dark Elf army (and didn’t burn it), then Anvilgard may be a good entry into Age of Sigmar…. though not the only possibility.
Here’s a quick rundown of our units, please note this article was written on 18/12/21 and points etc. may change:
The Black Ark Fleetmaster is not a world destroying hero but at 70 points they are cheap and importantly have the Scourge Privateers Keyword. This means that, if used as your General, they make both Scourgerunner Chariots and Black Ark Corsairs Battleline. Furthermore, if your Fleetmaster hangs around with their Corsair buddies, they have a buff which will improve their fighting abilities.
Fleetmaster
Kharibdyss/War Hydra: The Kharibdyss comes in at 165 points and the War Hydra at 170. So, which one should we build? Well, sadly neither of these are brilliant in terms of their rules at the moment but they are great models and incredibly lore friendly for the city. Both are monsters, so can use the monstrous rampage actions and can give you bonuses in five of the eight core Battle Tactics. On the flipside, monsters give away points when slain and these are not particularly survivable so be cautious. Both of these monsters have some limited healing, though the Kharibdyss only triggers if it slays a model and the War Hydra does have a ranged attack. Playing Anvilgard, we get access to Drakeblood Curses, this gives us an extra buff which we can put on our beasties to make them a little more impactful such as improving their charge or debuffing enemy bravery. Personally, I would build the Kharibdyss purely because I prefer the model and it plays so nicely into the nautical theme of Anvilgard.
Kharibdyss
Scourgerunner Chariot/Drakespawn Chariot: The Scourgerunner Chariot and Drakespawn Chariot both come in at 80 points. Sadly, there isn’t much, in my opinion, to recommend the Drakespawn Chariot. If you would like to theme your army around a Dreadlord on Black Dragon then these do become battleline but unfortunately, they aren’t terribly impactful (no pun intended). The Scourgerunner chariot, however, becomes battleline with our Fleetmaster General and has a few things in its favour. Big Base Action, with a 120 x 92mm base the unit can be handy for blocking up the table and is quick with a 12″ move. Furthermore, its shooting attack is quite nice, two shots with a reasonable chance of hitting and wounding and d3 damage plus a chance of causing D3 mortal wounds.
Scourgerunner Chariot
Black Ark Corsairs: Our ten corsairs come in at 85 points for ten models on 25mm bases and can be armed with either vicious blade and handbow or vicious blade and wicked cutlass. An argument can be made for the ranged version but our first unit, I would recommend building with the blade and cutlass. The reason for this is the Black Ark Fleetmaster, our Fleetmaster can buff the Corsairs with +1 to the attack characteristic of their melee weapons, so it is definitely worth bearing that in mind.
Corsairs
So, our army list looks like this:
Allegiance: Cities of Sigmar – City: Anvilgard (Illicit Dealings: Black Market Bounty) – Grand Strategy: Hold the Line – Triumphs: Inspired
Black Ark Fleetmaster (70)* – General – Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact) – City Role: General’s Adjutant – Lore of Dark Sorcerery: Vitriolic Spray
10 x Black Ark Corsairs (85)* – Vicious Blade & Wicked Cutlass – City Role: Honoured Retinue (Must be 5-20 models)
I gave our General the Arcane Tome to make them a wizard and made the Corsairs their honoured retinue, to make the Fleetmaster more survivable. The Kharibdyss has received the Drakeblood Curse of Fell Gaze, this will stack with the native ability of the beast and will make battleshock a scary proposition for low bravery armies. This would be a fun start to an Anvilgard army but could also be used as a nice start for any Cities faction, though particularly Har Kuron (excellent if you want to port over a Dark Elf army as you can include your Witch Elves) or Misthavn.
Is it worth buying multiples of these?
I would say yes to picking up a few if I wanted to build into Anvilgard. I should note, though, that if you are going into this Start Collecting! you are probably already accepting you are not playing at the competitive ‘Bleeding Edge’and you are leaning further into that. A second box will allow you to bulk out your Corsair unit to the maximum twenty for an Honoured Retinue and give you an extra Scourgerunner (which I would probably use as a separate unit, rather than increase to a unit of two). The only potentially questionable second unit is the Fleetmaster as the Command Ability to buff the Corsairs cannot be stacked so they may find their way on to be traded or sold. You could, of course, convert your Fleetmaster to something else as you will have plenty of spare bits from the Corsair set and they might look nice as an alternative crew model in one of your Scourgerunner Chariots. A third box could be useful, especially for the Chariot and you could convert the Corsairs into some nicely themed Shadow Warriors with a head swap with left over bits from other kits.
Sorceress
Looking to expand further, I would consider adding a Sorceress to our fledgling army, her warscroll spell debuffs an enemy unit’s to hit roll and also does D3 mortal wounds, she could be the Fleetmaster’s Adjutant and provide some extra Command Point generation as well. If taking a Sorceress, it’s worth remembering she can get buffs to cast by shanking her comrades with the Darkling Covens keyword, so give her some pawns to sacrifice! Cities of Sigmar also get +1 to cast Endless Spells, so it is worth perusing those to see which you might like and which might support your playstyle. I would suggest vitriolic spray as her chosen spell, removing enemy armour saves is not to be sniffed at, despite the short range. I like the idea of pairing her with Darkshards who can provide good sacrifice fodder while giving some shooting.
One of the most beautiful models still around from Warhammer Fantasy, in my opinion, is the Dreadlord on Black Dragon and they nicely line up with our theme. The Dreadlord is also quite strong and their buff works nicely on other Order Draconis and themselves, so consider some Drakespawn Knights for flavour. Picking up the Black Dragon, in combination with our two Kharibdyss, also opens up more Battle Tactics to us.
I would also consider branching out a little into Daughters of Khaine for a bit of fun and variety, the Khainite Shadowstalkers are beautiful models and their teleport ability is a great addition to any army.
This is what our 2K army might look like, add in Regiments to taste:
Allegiance: Cities of Sigmar – City: Anvilgard (Illicit Dealings: Dabbling in Sorcery) – Grand Strategy: Hold the Line – Triumphs: Inspired
Sorceress (95) – City Role: General’s Adjutant – Lore of Dark Sorcerery: Vitriolic Spray
Dreadlord on Black Dragon (290) – Lance of Spite & Tyrant Shield – Artefact: Drakescale Cloak – Drakeblood Curse: Jutting Bones – Mount Trait: Foetid Breath
Black Ark Fleetmaster (70) – General – Command Trait: Blackfang Crimelord
20 x Black Ark Corsairs (170) – Vicious Blade & Wicked Cutlass – City Role: Honoured Retinue (Must be 5-20 models) – Reinforced x 1
I think this can be made more competitive with the addition of a Hurricanum, perhaps a Runepriest and an Anointed on Frost Phoenix instead of some of the Aelf units but this does somewhat compromise the theme for me and I truly enjoy this theme, if you are looking for a very competitive list then Anvilgard is probably not the place to start in any case.
To sum up, this is an excellent Start Collecting! with some great models and a good discount but it doesn’t have the most competitive choices and it doesn’t line up with the most competitive of factions. If you enjoy the aesthetics, lore and theme of Anvilgard though, it does fit them perfectly and is 100% a great buy.
All the Best and for the Witch King *cough* Sigmar!
Game 3 vs Tuggy and his Blades of Khorne. We swapped home objectives turn 4 but the extra points for killing the Bloodthirsters were vital. A 14-6 win to me. On 28 now #BoBo2021pic.twitter.com/vQGyimqPCo
Game 4 at #BOBO2021 against @Aethercast_AoS. mirebrute cousin get distracted by shiny boat & run toward it but boat shoot him in face. Stupid mirebrute. Rockgut brothers try to punch ships from sky. But ships fly off & shoot rockguts. Silly boats. Great game tho. pic.twitter.com/LA9W8RWbcu
Game 4 exceptionally close with Gatekeeper one shotting the Loonboss despite rerolling hits but it thenade up for it by killing one Hopper the following turn. Very very close 2 points in it so 11-9 win#BoBo2021#aospic.twitter.com/QkayKA70tg
Amazing game 5 at #BOBO2021 v @RhysSallabanks fyreslayers. Trogg smash silly short men with red hair and do 30 dmg but objectives fall on rhys side. Trogg have big feet but only move 6". Sad face. Trogg lose game by 2 points going 0-5 for event. pic.twitter.com/0ATWCchSmt
A loss for Declan in the first round against fellow Chump Paul Coram
Game 1 #BOBO2021 first round loss v Luke Alford DOK Big snake lady have pointy spear and kill rockgut brothers. Sad face. Little snakes shoot other rockguts brothers in hero and shooting phase! Stupid snakes. Trogg smash next opponent instead. pic.twitter.com/HXt5QBEEGG
game 2 vs Kruleboyz another great game and another narrow loss 7-13. #bobo2021 @Elcapitan_WS10 and me playing for Best Gloomspite and still all to play for. Not sure the squig charge turn 1 was a good idea though pic.twitter.com/MLsFUlAAIy
Game 2 #BOBO2021 trogg finally get game against good friend @tzaangorjack. However @tzaangorjack run double mawcrusha Ironjawz. Trogg lose game. Trogg now not friends with @tzaangorjack. Silly @tzaangorjack pic.twitter.com/7XNKyGw5Mh
So I’m biting the bullet and diving into my first tournament since 1999….. Yes I’m that old.
I’m attending the Battle of the Burning Skies in Northamptonshire on 26th March. Tickets for which are available here. The tournament has been organised jointly between the fantastic peeps at both Savage Hammer Gaming and Greetings from the Warp.
It’s a 2,000 point the day event of AoS.
I’m a little rusty with AoS having only played one game against my A.I. ruleset in 3rd. One game in 2nd and a few in the first edition. Time to get some practice in.
I own three armies for AoS, Cities of Sigmar, Kharadron Overlords and Kruleboyz. I’m going to go with Kruleboyz as they’re probably the most competitive out of the three and I don’t want to be spanked in every game by taking my pure old school Dispossessed list.
So my list?
Well this is my first draft after some consultation with @rightangle79. And will in all likelihood get changed as the tournament draws closer.
Allegiance : Orruk Warclans – Subfaction : Big Yellers – Army Type : Kruleboyz – Grand Strategy : Hold the Line – Triumphs : Inspired
As I prepare for another event the Age of Chumps are attending the November edition of the BoBo event. The last of these was run when I was at Carnage last month, so really happy to be finally going to one of the events. – I’ve not been since Chrimbobo in 2018, which seems like an age ago!
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Looking through the event pack, they are using the 20-0 system based on victory point difference:
I like this scoring system for those armies that normally struggle as there is always something to play for. This was especially relevant because of the awards available:
Trophies for all the Battletomes!
So, with a scoring system that rewards you even when losing, and a possibility of my Gitz actually picking up a trophy there was only one option… the Gloomspite Gitz would ride again!
The original list from A Gloomy Outing
Those who may have read my last article on the Gitz –A Gloomy Outing– will know that I struggled the last time I took the Squigs, but with a change in the FAQ, the main disadvantage of the Hoppers has been corrected.
This resolves a major issue I had with the Squig Hopper units where an enemy would ‘tag’ them in combat and they were neutered. Now we can retreat and still do mortal wounds, I hoped to get good value out of the 20 Squig Hoppers I intended to take. That said, there were still some changes to be made so I’m intending to take this:
General: Loonboss on Mangler Squig
The Loonboss on Mangler Squig is an expensive chap at 310 points, and I never seem to be able to get my worth out of him… he can (technically) hit like a train, but I always miss with him and his 12 wounds makes him very squishy… his random movement with no damage is okay (3D6″) but with a few wounds it can fall dramatically. That said he does have the greatest warscroll damage table in the game (he gets worse, then better!) which is a great use of design space.
He has the Arcane Tome (Flaming Weapon) so that I can give him the command trait Dodgy Character (re-roll successful attacks against him). I hope that this will allow him to charge a unit and ignore unleash hell, or put off Sentinels and Longstrikes from shooting at him. However I fear he will die often!
He’s not a complete loss in a Squig army though, as his command ability is +1 to wound for all friendly squig units wholly within 18″. Making the Squig Herd not too shabby.
Madcap Shaman
This little guy is squishy… like very squishy, but he holds my second artefact – Moonface Mommet. This little doll causes an enemy unit within 12″ to be at -1 armour save… I’ll deploy him with the Squig Herd, and hope he survives longer than a Spinal Tap Drummer… although at 4 wounds I don’t hold out much hope. He has Hand of Gork for the threat, but will likely cast Mystic Shield on the Squig Herd more often.
Fungoid Cave-Shaman
My third character and third wizard has a 4+ ward so effectively twice as many wounds as the Madcap. He can give command points on a 4+ and also comes with Hand of Gork… although he’s likely to try to cast it.
Battleline 1 – 36 Squig Herd
I love these vicious little blighters and at 72 wounds, they are more resilient than a Gargant at the same points (480 points), and can do some damage with 2 attacks at rend 1. They also explode if they flee, and can come back as an 18 Squig Herd if they die…. big, unwieldy, slow, off-meta but such great models with loads of character. They’ll be at the front of the army with the Mangler, Madcap and Mirebrute hiding within 18″, 12″ and 18″ of them!
With all out attack they attack in ranks of 2 (reach 1″) with 2 attacks each (see Snufflers below to increase this), 3+/2+/-1/D1. Sure you need 2 command points, but with the shrine I don’t need it for battleshock.
Battleline 2 – 20 Squig Hoppers
If you look up ‘left-field’ in the dictionary you may well see 20 Hoppers staring back at you. They have random movement (3D6″), are 1″ reach on 32mm bases, and have a bravery of, well, a goblin (4)… so why 20?
To get maximum use out of Boing! Boing! Boing! which does a mortal wound on a 4+ to one unit for each Hopper that moves across. Can you run and retreat – heck yeah; you can now. So charge the herd, get bogged down and then these guys fly over, cause 10 mortal wounds and then either charge in for the kill or wait for the next victim. Great stuff(*)
Battleline 3 – 10 Squig Hoppers
What’s more mobile, versatile and has a small footprint than 20 Hoppers but with all the fun…? 10 Hoppers! This is the unit that really needs to keep my Hold the Line objective so they can’t take the risks of the 20 unit, but they are still fun; are 20 wounds and will take some killing — unless anyone brings the shooting meta… then they’re in trouble.
With a cheaky mortal wound output here, and 4D6″ movement to run onto objectives, they are my secret weapon (not really). Like the 20 Hoppers they are Great Stuff (*)
Other units – 2 x Sneaky Snufflers
Sneaky Snufflers are a great warscroll – except the not moving part, which is odd – but at 75 points they give 12 wounds, and give +1 attack to Squigs & Grotz – just beware of the key word bingo. If disaster strikes, I can even do it twice on one unit, doing 2D6 mortal wounds, but giving +1 attack. Who doesn’t love the idea of Squigs with 4 attacks swarming the unit that’s just attacked… mu-ha-ha!
Other units – Rippa Snarlfangs
I’ve written and spoken about Rippa’s until I’m blue in the face, and it’s starting to get through… the most popular unit in Destruction (**) they are able to complete battle tactics in their sleep… or provide much needed 6″ pile in moves to avoid Unleash Hell. Want to know more… read about them here!
What a Rippa!
Other units – 5 Boingrot Bounders
Are these little armoured knights good in 5s? Sure Varanguard cope in 3s, so these little guys will do just fine – with only 5 models I can afford to give them a more wide ranging role, or save them for a late Hand of Gork. They’ll die a lot and often, but if (when) they do, they can come back through the shrine if there are no other dead yet.
Ally 1 – Marshcrawler Shoggoth
Still not an ally in the app for some reason, this chap is a great addition to the army from the Orruk Warclan book, with the ‘Krew Drummer’ special rule giving all friendly units wholly within 18″ +1 to hit. Also, it’s not a command ability so it can be stacked with All out attack, if you’re playing anyone sneaky enough to use -1 to hit abilities.
Perfect for when you come up against Stabbas and Shootas in the meta-defining mirror that’s almost certain when we play gitz! (***). I’m painting my first one up for this tournament (painting 2 at once for ease), and I imagine he’ll be appearing in a few other armies over the weekend… maybe in a certain Trogg army!
So the final list looks like this:
Allegiance: Gloomspite Gitz – Option: Gloomspite Gitz – Grand Strategy: Hold the Line – Triumphs: Inspired
Leaders Loonboss on Mangler Squigs (310)* – General – Command Trait: Dodgy Character – Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact) – Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon Madcap Shaman (80)* – Artefact: Moonface Mommet – Lore of the Moonclans: The Hand of Gork Fungoid Cave-Shaman (95)* – Lore of the Moonclans: The Hand of Gork
Battleline 36 x Squig Herd (480)** – Reinforced x 2 20 x Squig Hoppers (360)** – Reinforced x 1 10 x Squig Hoppers (180)**
Units 6 x Sneaky Snufflers (75)* 6 x Sneaky Snufflers (75)* 3 x Rippa’s Snarlfangs (70) 5 x Boingrot Bounderz (105) 1 x Marshcrawla Sloggoth (150)
Core Battalions *Warlord **Hunters of the Heartlands
I’ll let you know how I get on – hoping for 2 wins… but in reality will be happy with 1 win and 1 draw! as well as some points for close losses! Oh, and top Gloomspite Gitz of course!
So, what do you think of the force… whose going to place higher – me or Stuart (Troggs!) and who will win most friends? Hopefully I’ll have all the answers to these questions at the end of the weekend. Roll on BoBo!
— Declan
(*) – Player’s experience of Hoppers may not reflect the rosy picture painted above.. there’s a reason Gitz aren’t in Tier A!
(**) or most popular unit for me… which is clearly the same thing anyway.
(***) probably more due to going 0-3, than 3-0 but <shrugs>
