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Start Collecting: Sons of Behemat – Beginners 1,000 Point Army

As part of our Start Collecting series looking a beginner armies, I’ve drawn the short straw and been ‘given’ Sons of Behemat. Maybe this has something to do with the fact I actually own an army of them, or just because I’ve upset Peter! Either way it’ll be fun, so join me on perhaps the strangest ‘Start Collecting’ article on Woehammer.

Sons of Behemat are the Gargants (Giants) of Warhammer Age of Sigmar. If you play 40k, then think about the Chaos Knights or Imperial Knights Codices and you’ll get the right idea… in fact it is very likely that the success of the Knight kit encourages GW to try making a Mega-Gargant kit.

Upon the release of their book, they were a very popular army but with new armies coming on the scene, extra points for killing them, and the difficulty in piloting them 5-0 they have seen less representation in AoS3. They also suffer a bit from being one dimensional! Sit on an objective; don’t die – can often be a tactic that’ll get you 2-3 at a tournament.

From The Honest Wargamer, State of the Meta Stats

Despite the stop of popularity (10% to 3.3%), they remain a 3-2 army and the best Destruction army (statistically… check out more on The Honest Wargamer website).

The first thing you’ll notice with this army is that there are 4 warscrolls, and no allies (we’ll discuss this below), so there’s not many options available for a 1,000 point force. The second thing you’ll notice is that there is no Start Collecting box… what a surprise; so we’ll have to forge our own path.

1,000 points or working towards 2,000 points

<updated after article released>. We had a great comment on one of the social media thingys that Peter pays attention to. Thanks to Dead Pheonix for pointing out that the below isn’t allowed in matched play 1,000 points ‘Contest of Generals’ because the Gatebreaker is over 50% of the army… so do I rewrite the article, or just change it’s premise! Change of course.

If you want to play 1,000 points open play then the below list is fine, if you’re playing 1,000 matched play then you’ll need Kraken Eater & Warmstomper or 2 Kraken-Eaters. The list below is a great stepping stone to a 2,000 point list though, so have fun with it…!

Gatebreaker or Kraken-Eater?

Your first question will be whether you want a Gatebreaker or whether a Kraken Eater is ‘good enough’ for what you want. The advantages of the Kraken Eater are the additional model count on objectives (30 rather than 20 for the Mega-Gargants) and additional Artefacts if you want them. The disadvantage is – although they look good on paper – the low rend makes them do a lot less damage that you’d think.

The Gatekeeper is definitely a beat-stick and able to take down some of the biggest enemies in Age of Sigmar, but he comes with a problem at 1,000 points… he costs 525 so you can’t have two of him. This makes him a target alongside the Warstomper you’ll be bringing along to keep him company. If you can only kill one of them, you aim for the Gatebreaker.

And why not just grab a Warstomper and 3 Gargants… well you can if you want, but the Gargants only come in 2s, so you’re buying one you don’t need and at 1,000 points then the 2 Mega Gargants are a great start – and a chunk of cash!

Games Workshop’s Gatebreaker Mega-Gargant

You’ll also need a copy of the Battletome as well.

Because we want an army with some variety, and you don’t want to paint two identical models, we’ll go Gatebreaker and Warstomper for our 1,000 point army. Of course, you’ll need the Battletome as well… so this is an expensive start!

The Cost

Remember that if you sign up with SCN Hobby World you can get all these boxes at 25% off the Games Workshop price.

SetGW PriceSCN Price
Mega-Gargant – Gatebreaker £120.00£90.00
Mega-Gargant – Warstomper£120.00£90.00
Battletome: Sons of Behemat£27.50£20.63
Total£267.50£200.63
What it costs

The Army List

Gatekeeper (General) 525
Warstomper 470

So… that was simple. The artefacts are really entirely up to you. I prefer ones which improve killing power, but Arcane Tome is a fan favourite to allow Flaming Weapon and a dispel opportunity. Sure it won’t help against Teclis and Kroak, but if you’re against a mid-tier army it may stop the key spell.

Allies

On the face of it, the Sons of Behemat cannot have allies, but as the army expands, it is possible to take Kragnos to get a little more hitty power – but although he has a 2+ save he can be a weak link against shooting mortal wounds. The other option is of course a Thondia Incarnate… but I don’t know how many of these we’ll see in competitive play given their narrative background and the expense of book and model.

Where next?

Now you’ve got to 1,000 points where to next. Well there are two ways to play if you ignore the Kragnos option. One is to get another 2 Mega-Gargants and take along 4 models to a tournament. It’ll give you a lot of time to view other games as everything is so quick with this option. It also allows you to try out the Kraken Eater.

Mancrusher Gargants from Games Workshop

The other option is lots of small Mancrusher Gargants. These are better than their Gitz cousins (Aleguzzlers) in the Gloomspite Gitz book. They can’t fall over and their damage table doesn’t reduce movement (because you can take them in units). The disadvantage if that they are expensive for an old kit (£80 RRP for a pair), and if you need more than 3 of them they become somewhat mono-pose. They are so bad, even I have converted a few.

The good news about the Mancrusher Gargants is that if you aren’t playing at a specific GW event you can bring Proxies… and there’s loads of great models out there – don’t overlook 3D printed toys either.

So that’s it – is 1,000 points good? Well strangely yes. A lot of opponents won’t have the tools to deal with 2 monsters and the Mightier Makes Rightier rule for objective capturing makes it difficult to take objectives off the Sons of Behemat if they are still alive. Just don’t bank on having too many Most Sporting votes. If you’re playing against a regular opponent, you may want to agree an adjustment in points for them as well – especially if they don’t have access to much shooting.

— Declan

Start Collecting: Ironjawz – Beginners 1,000 Point Army

Those of you who have followed the blog for a while will be familiar with my 40k series of beginners armies based of each factions Combat Patrol box. I thought we should do the same for AoS.

Ironjawz are one of the more popular armies in Age of Sigmar and they’re also pretty good on the tabletop. Ironjawz lists can often be found gracing our top three lists series.

The Start Collecting box for Ironjawz has everything in you’d want in a budding tournament army. Hard hitting Gore-gruntas and tough ‘Ard Boyz.

Start Collecting: Ironjawz

If you’re starting out with Ironjawz you can’t go wrong by picking up two of their start collecting sets. That’ll give you two Warchanters, 20 ‘Ard Boyz and 6 Gore-Gruntas.

You’ll need someone to lead this mob though. At 1,000 points we don’t have enough points left for anything big, but we can pick up a Megaboss on foot.

You’ll also need a copy of the Battletome as well.

The Cost

Remember that if you sign up with SCN Hobby World you can get all these boxes at 25% off the Games Workshop price.

SetGW PriceSCN Price
Start Collecting: Ironjawz £65.00£48.75
Start Collecting: Ironjawz£65.00£48.75
Megaboss£26.00£19.50
Battletome: Orruk Warclans £32.50£24.38
Total£188.50£141.38
What it costs

The Army List

*Core Battalion: Battle Regiment

Megaboss

Credit: Games Workshop

This big fella will be our leader. As we’ve got no shaman in our list we’ve given him the Arcane Tome, this makes him into a wizard who can cast and unbind one spell each turn. We’ve also given him Da Great Big Green Hand of Gork.

Credit: Age of Sigmar App

This is a great spell for getting any of your units closer to the enemy. It can even be cast on himself! For his Command Trait, we’ve chosen Hulking Brute which when he charges into combat means he’ll cause D3 wounds on a 2+ roll.

You’ll want him in combat as well. Look at his weapons:

Lets break that down a bit. The following table shows how much damage you should expect to dish out if you roll perfectly average dice rolls.

WeaponAttacksAv # of HitsAv # of WoundsAv Damage (Pre-Saves)
Boss Choppa & Rip-tooth Fist85.33.57.0
Based on Average Dice Rolls

Add on to that, that you’ll likely be causing 2 mortal wounds on the charge as well, and you’re talking 9 damage in combat.

Warchanter

These guys will give you some great buffs to your units. Give one Fixin’ Beat to heal a model within 12″ D3 wounds (looking at you Megaboss). Then give the other Killa Beat, this will add 1 to hit rolls that target a specific enemy unit. As well as this, with Violent Fury they can add 1 to the damage of the attacks of a friendly unit They’re also not bad in combat themselves:

WeaponAttacksAv # of HitsAv # of WoundsAv Damage (Pre-Saves)
Gorkstikk & Morkstikk64.02.65.2
Based on Average Dice Rolls

Ard Boyz

These guys are tough with two wounds each and a 4+ save. It’ll take a fair bit to shift them. We’ve got two units of these as well, one of which is reinforced to 10 models. Now imagine the unit of ten has charged into combat AND they’ve listened to the Killa Beat from your Warchanter while attacking a unit that the Warchanters used it’s Violent Fury on. You’d get the following output:

WeaponAttacksAv # of HitsAv # of WoundsAv Damage (Pre-Saves)
Ardboy Choppas3120.513.527.0
Based on Average Dice Rolls

That’ll do the job…..

Gore-Gruntas

Your fast attack, these can be on the enemy before they know it. Make sure to give them Jagged Gore-Hackas so they can take full advantage of their charge ability.

These fellas are also the reason we’ve chosen the Bloodtoofs subfaction.

The ability to make a move or charge another unit after combat is just too good to resist!

What about their damage output?

WeaponAttacksAv # of HitsAv # of WoundsAv Damage (Pre-Saves)
Jagged Gore-hackas106.64.44.4
Tusks & Hooves127.95.25.2
Based on Average Dice Rolls

The Jagged Gore-hackas are at rend -2 as well! There isn’t a single one of your units you don’t want in combat.

Where next?

Once you’re up to 1,000 points (or nearly in any case), you’ll probably start thinking about a 2k list. Perhaps look at the Megaboss on Maw-Krusha or some Brutes. Perhaps even double Maw-Krusha….

Start Collecting: Anvilgard – Beginners 2,000 Point Army

Following on from Declan’s article last week where he covered a competitive list that could be made using the Start Collecting! Ogor Mawtribes boxed set, we continue this week with a look at the Start Collecting! Anvilgard set.

What’s in the box……!?

1 Black Ark Fleetmaster

1 Kharibdyss, this can also be built as a War Hydra

10 Black Ark Corsairs

1 Scourgerunner Chariot, this can also be built as a Drakespawn Chariot

13 miniatures, including a hero a chariot and a monster.

One of the best things about the Start Collecting! boxes are the savings. In this case, (as of 18/12/21 in GBP) the box is £60 and the collected contents, if purchased individually, retail for £100 giving a sweet £40 saving (or a free Kharibdyss/War Hydra, if you prefer).

What is Anvilgard?

Anvilgard – A lovely place to visit…. Wish you were here!

Anvilgard is a subfaction of the Cities of Sigmar faction in the Order Grand Alliance for Age of Sigmar, to play the army you will need a copy of the Cities of Sigmar Battletome.

Anvilgard, also known as the City of Scales was a port city in the realm of Aqshy on the Charrwind coast. The city is surrounded by jungle and the Ironweld Arsenal constantly pump out defoliants which shroud the city in a stinking fug. The city was dominated by Blackscale Coil crime syndicate and has some interesting rules which align with this lore. This City of Sigmar fell to the forces of Morathi during the events of Broken Realms: Morathi but is still a playable subfaction in the game.

The background and the rules for Anvilgard encourage the use of our monster and the Privateers, so the box actually fits really well with the lore for the city.

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Fans of Warhammer Fantasy will note that if they have an old Dark Elf army (and didn’t burn it), then Anvilgard may be a good entry into Age of Sigmar…. though not the only possibility.

Here’s a quick rundown of our units, please note this article was written on 18/12/21 and points etc. may change:

The Black Ark Fleetmaster is not a world destroying hero but at 70 points they are cheap and importantly have the Scourge Privateers Keyword. This means that, if used as your General, they make both Scourgerunner Chariots and Black Ark Corsairs Battleline. Furthermore, if your Fleetmaster hangs around with their Corsair buddies, they have a buff which will improve their fighting abilities.

Fleetmaster

Kharibdyss/War Hydra: The Kharibdyss comes in at 165 points and the War Hydra at 170. So, which one should we build? Well, sadly neither of these are brilliant in terms of their rules at the moment but they are great models and incredibly lore friendly for the city. Both are monsters, so can use the monstrous rampage actions and can give you bonuses in five of the eight core Battle Tactics. On the flipside, monsters give away points when slain and these are not particularly survivable so be cautious. Both of these monsters have some limited healing, though the Kharibdyss only triggers if it slays a model and the War Hydra does have a ranged attack. Playing Anvilgard, we get access to Drakeblood Curses, this gives us an extra buff which we can put on our beasties to make them a little more impactful such as improving their charge or debuffing enemy bravery. Personally, I would build the Kharibdyss purely because I prefer the model and it plays so nicely into the nautical theme of Anvilgard.

Kharibdyss

Scourgerunner Chariot/Drakespawn Chariot: The Scourgerunner Chariot and Drakespawn Chariot both come in at 80 points. Sadly, there isn’t much, in my opinion, to recommend the Drakespawn Chariot. If you would like to theme your army around a Dreadlord on Black Dragon then these do become battleline but unfortunately, they aren’t terribly impactful (no pun intended). The Scourgerunner chariot, however, becomes battleline with our Fleetmaster General and has a few things in its favour. Big Base Action, with a 120 x 92mm base the unit can be handy for blocking up the table and is quick with a 12″ move. Furthermore, its shooting attack is quite nice, two shots with a reasonable chance of hitting and wounding and d3 damage plus a chance of causing D3 mortal wounds.

Scourgerunner Chariot

Black Ark Corsairs: Our ten corsairs come in at 85 points for ten models on 25mm bases and can be armed with either vicious blade and handbow or vicious blade and wicked cutlass. An argument can be made for the ranged version but our first unit, I would recommend building with the blade and cutlass. The reason for this is the Black Ark Fleetmaster, our Fleetmaster can buff the Corsairs with +1 to the attack characteristic of their melee weapons, so it is definitely worth bearing that in mind.

Corsairs

So, our army list looks like this:

Allegiance: Cities of Sigmar
City: Anvilgard (Illicit Dealings: Black Market Bounty)
Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
Triumphs: Inspired

Black Ark Fleetmaster (70)*
– General
– Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
– City Role: General’s Adjutant
– Lore of Dark Sorcerery: Vitriolic Spray

10 x Black Ark Corsairs (85)*
– Vicious Blade & Wicked Cutlass
– City Role: Honoured Retinue (Must be 5-20 models)

1 x Scourgerunner Chariots (80)*

Kharibdyss (165)*
– Drakeblood Curse: Fell Gaze

*Battle Regiment

Total: 400 / 750
Reinforced Units: 0 / 1
Allies: 0 / 100
Wounds: 33
Drops: 1

I gave our General the Arcane Tome to make them a wizard and made the Corsairs their honoured retinue, to make the Fleetmaster more survivable. The Kharibdyss has received the Drakeblood Curse of Fell Gaze, this will stack with the native ability of the beast and will make battleshock a scary proposition for low bravery armies. This would be a fun start to an Anvilgard army but could also be used as a nice start for any Cities faction, though particularly Har Kuron (excellent if you want to port over a Dark Elf army as you can include your Witch Elves) or Misthavn.

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Is it worth buying multiples of these?

I would say yes to picking up a few if I wanted to build into Anvilgard. I should note, though, that if you are going into this Start Collecting! you are probably already accepting you are not playing at the competitive ‘Bleeding Edge’and you are leaning further into that. A second box will allow you to bulk out your Corsair unit to the maximum twenty for an Honoured Retinue and give you an extra Scourgerunner (which I would probably use as a separate unit, rather than increase to a unit of two). The only potentially questionable second unit is the Fleetmaster as the Command Ability to buff the Corsairs cannot be stacked so they may find their way on to be traded or sold. You could, of course, convert your Fleetmaster to something else as you will have plenty of spare bits from the Corsair set and they might look nice as an alternative crew model in one of your Scourgerunner Chariots. A third box could be useful, especially for the Chariot and you could convert the Corsairs into some nicely themed Shadow Warriors with a head swap with left over bits from other kits.

Sorceress

Looking to expand further, I would consider adding a Sorceress to our fledgling army, her warscroll spell debuffs an enemy unit’s to hit roll and also does D3 mortal wounds, she could be the Fleetmaster’s Adjutant and provide some extra Command Point generation as well. If taking a Sorceress, it’s worth remembering she can get buffs to cast by shanking her comrades with the Darkling Covens keyword, so give her some pawns to sacrifice! Cities of Sigmar also get +1 to cast Endless Spells, so it is worth perusing those to see which you might like and which might support your playstyle. I would suggest vitriolic spray as her chosen spell, removing enemy armour saves is not to be sniffed at, despite the short range. I like the idea of pairing her with Darkshards who can provide good sacrifice fodder while giving some shooting.

One of the most beautiful models still around from Warhammer Fantasy, in my opinion, is the Dreadlord on Black Dragon and they nicely line up with our theme. The Dreadlord is also quite strong and their buff works nicely on other Order Draconis and themselves, so consider some Drakespawn Knights for flavour. Picking up the Black Dragon, in combination with our two Kharibdyss, also opens up more Battle Tactics to us.

I would also consider branching out a little into Daughters of Khaine for a bit of fun and variety, the Khainite Shadowstalkers are beautiful models and their teleport ability is a great addition to any army.

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This is what our 2K army might look like, add in Regiments to taste:

Allegiance: Cities of Sigmar
City: Anvilgard (Illicit Dealings: Dabbling in Sorcery)
Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
Triumphs: Inspired

Sorceress (95)
– City Role: General’s Adjutant
– Lore of Dark Sorcerery: Vitriolic Spray

Dreadlord on Black Dragon (290)
– Lance of Spite & Tyrant Shield
– Artefact: Drakescale Cloak
– Drakeblood Curse: Jutting Bones
– Mount Trait: Foetid Breath

Black Ark Fleetmaster (70)
– General
– Command Trait: Blackfang Crimelord

20 x Black Ark Corsairs (170)
– Vicious Blade & Wicked Cutlass
– City Role: Honoured Retinue (Must be 5-20 models)
– Reinforced x 1

1 x Scourgerunner Chariots (80)

1 x Scourgerunner Chariots (80)

20 x Darkshards (230)
– Reinforced x 1

10 x Dreadspears (90)

Kharibdyss (165)
– Drakeblood Curse: Fell Gaze

Kharibdyss (165)

5 x Drakespawn Knights (125)

10 x Shadow Warriors (120)

5 x Drakespawn Knights (125)

9 x Khainite Shadowstalkers (120)
– Allies

Chronomantic Cogs (45)



Total: 1970 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
Allies: 120 / 400
Wounds: 149
Drops: 8

I think this can be made more competitive with the addition of a Hurricanum, perhaps a Runepriest and an Anointed on Frost Phoenix instead of some of the Aelf units but this does somewhat compromise the theme for me and I truly enjoy this theme, if you are looking for a very competitive list then Anvilgard is probably not the place to start in any case.

To sum up, this is an excellent Start Collecting! with some great models and a good discount but it doesn’t have the most competitive choices and it doesn’t line up with the most competitive of factions. If you enjoy the aesthetics, lore and theme of Anvilgard though, it does fit them perfectly and is 100% a great buy.

All the Best and for the Witch King *cough* Sigmar!

Start Collecting: Ogor Mawtribes – A Beginners 2,000 Point Army

Peter & I have decided to look at the Start Collecting Boxes and what armies we can make out of them, what’s next and what could be taken to a tournament.

I got ‘lucky’, and immediately said I would do the Ogor Mawtribes on the basis that it’s destruction which I understand. Little did Peter realise it’s also the easiest to do!

Only 5 models, for £55- that’s expensive!

At £55 for 5 models it may seem like this is expensive, but wait until you see the Frostlord on Stonehorn kit. It can produce no fewer than 6 Warscrolls!

  • Frostlord on Stornhorn
  • Frostlord on Thundertusk
  • Huskard on Stonehorn
  • Huskard on Thundertusk
  • Stonehorn Beastriders
  • Thundertusk Beastriders

So, you’ve already got loads of choice when you pick up the box. The other benefit is that the Mournfang are Battleline… if you have a Beastclaw Riders General… which includes the four characters above. How convenient.

I would start with the big monster being a Frostlord on Stonehorn, it looks cool and is very survivable, and assemble the Mornfang with Gargant Hackers for the extra range.

What Next?

So when you’ve completed a start collecting box for these guys, what is next. Well, this is where it gets great – 2 more start collecting boxes!

An you have this:

Allegiance: Ogor Mawtribes
– Mawtribe: Boulderhead
– Grand Strategy: Beast Master
Leaders
Frostlord on Stonehorn (430)
 General
 Mount Trait: Metalcruncher
Frostlord on Stonehorn (430)
Huskard on Thundertusk (335)
 Chaintrap

Battleline
4 x Mournfang Pack (320)
4 x Mournfang Pack (320)
2 x Mournfang Pack (160)

Total: 1995 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 98
Drops: 6

You don’t have to paint them in white either… or red!

This is a great fun army… charge forward, kill stuff, fall back onto objectives, try to survive. Sure it’s not going 5-0 too often (or indeed not at all), but as an army for under £150 from your FLGS (£165 RRP) this will be the cheapest Age of Sigmar army you’ll ever buy.

— Declan