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Top Three Old World Lists for Battles in the Border Princes (1,500pts)

This is the top three Old World lists for Battles in the Border Princes that took place in the United Kingdom on the 20th and 21st of April at Warhammer World. It saw 56 players vying to be crowned champion in a 5-game tournament.

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The Top Three Old World Lists

CHARACTERS
High Priest [212 pts]
Hand weapon
– Level 4 Wizard
– General
– Skeletal Steed
– Lore Familiar
– Necromancy
Mortuary Priest [80 pts]
Hand weapon
– Battle Standard Bearer (Mortuary Cult Only)
– On foot
– Illusion

CORE
4 Ushabti [196 pts]
Hand weapons
– Greatbows
– Heavy armour
4 Tomb Swarms [148 pts]
Hand weapons (Venemous Bites and Stings)
5 Skeleton Horse Archers [55 pts]
Hand weapons
– Warbows
5 Skeleton Horse Archers [55 pts]
Hand weapons
– Warbows
19 Skeleton Warriors [86 pts]
Hand weapons
– Shields
– Master of Arms (Champion)
– Standard bearer

SPECIAL
Tomb Scorpion [70 pts]
Decapitating Claws
– Envenomed Sting
– Heavy armour (Bone Carapace)
Necrosphinx [195 pts]
Cleaving Blades
– Decapitating Strike
– Heavy armour
Tomb Scorpion [70 pts]
Decapitating Claws
– Envenomed Sting
– Heavy armour (Bone Carapace)

RARE
Necrosphinx [195 pts]
Cleaving Blades
– Decapitating Strike
– Heavy armour
Casket of Souls [135 pts]
Hand weapons
– Great weapons
– Light armour

CHARACTERS
Chaos Lord [570 pts]
Flail
– Full plate armour
– Shield
– Mark of Nurgle
– General
– Chaos Dragon
– Crown of Everlasting Conquest
– Enchanting Aura
Exalted Sorcerer [145 pts]
Hand weapon
– Light armour
– Mark of Tzeentch
– Wizard Level 2
– On foot
– Spell Familiar
– Daemonology

CORE
5 Marauder Horsemen [70 pts]
Flails
– Throwing axes
– Light armour
– Mark of Chaos Undivided
5 Marauder Horsemen [70 pts]
Flails
– Throwing axes
– Light armour
– Mark of Chaos Undivided
12 Chaos Warriors [235 pts]
Hand weapons
– Heavy armour
– Shields
– Mark of Tzeentch
– Champion
– Standard bearer [War Banner]
– Musician

SPECIAL
Chaos Chariot [110 pts]
Hand weapons
– Halberds
– Mark of Chaos Undivided
Chaos Chariot [110 pts]
Hand weapons
– Halberds
– Mark of Chaos Undivided
3 Dragon Ogres [189 pts]
Great weapons
– Heavy armour

CHARACTERS
Chaos Lord [632 pts]
Hand weapon
– Full plate armour
– Shield
– Mark of Chaos Undivided
– Chaos Dragon
– Crown of Everlasting Conquest
– 3x Favour of the Gods
– Chaos Runesword
– Enchanting Aura
– Acid Ichor

CORE
4 Chaos Knights [142 pts]
Lances
– Shields
– Heavy armour
– Mark of Khorne
– Champion
– Standard bearer
– Musician
4 Chaos Knights [167 pts]
Lances
– Shields
– Heavy armour
– Mark of Khorne
– Champion
– Standard bearer [War Banner]
– Musician
4 Chaos Knights [142 pts]
Lances
– Shields
– Heavy armour
– Mark of Khorne
– Champion
– Standard bearer
– Musician

SPECIAL
3 Dragon Ogres [196 pts]
Great weapons
– Heavy armour
– Shartak
4 Chosen Chaos Knights [220 pts]
Lances
– Shields
– Full plate armour
– Mark of Chaos Undivided
– Champion
– Standard bearer [Banner of Rage]

CHARACTERS
Lector of Sigmar [279 pts]
Hand weapon
– Great weapon
– Light armour
– General
– War Alter of Sigmar
– The White Cloak
Captain of the Empire [165 pts]
Hand weapon
– Lance (if appropriately mounted)
– Full plate armour
– Battle Standard Bearer
– Demigryph
– Ruby Ring of Ruin
– Charmed Shield

CORE
8 Empire Knights [203 pts]
Hand weapons
– Lances
– Shields
– Heavy armour
– Preceptor (champion) [The Silver Horn]
– Standard bearer
10 State Missile Troops [95 pts]
Hand weapons
– Handguns
– No armour
– Sergeant (champion) [Repeater handgun]
– Standard bearer
5 Empire Archers [40 pts]
Hand weapons
– Warbows
– Scouts
5 Empire Archers [40 pts]
Hand weapons
– Warbows
– Scouts

SPECIAL
3 Demigryph Knights [203 pts]
Lances
– Shields
– Full plate armour
– Demigryph Preceptor (champion)
– Standard bearer
2 Demigryph Knights [133 pts]
Lances
– Shields
– Full plate armour
– Demigryph Preceptor (champion)
4 Outriders [76 pts]
Hand weapons
– Pistols
– Repeater handguns
– Heavy armour

RARE
Steam Tank [265 pts]
Steam Cannon
– Steam gun Empire

Final Tournament Placings

Old World: Forces of Fantasy Unit Performance

Following on from yesterday’s post in regards to the external balance of factions, today we’re looking at the internal balance of units within each faction.

Units have only been included in the stats if they have at least 30 games minimum. Anything less than that have been excluded. These stats cover ALL tournaments and point levels.

Units shown in Green are what we considered to be balanced (within the 45-55% win rate range). Anything red, is outside of this ideal range.

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The Old World – Meta Stats: 3rd March 2024

Following our post two weeks ago, we announced that we would be looking at the Old World stats. Since then we’ve received numerous requests for updates.

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Tournament Data
Faction Data

Tournament Data

With around 3-4 tournaments each weekend, the data is gathering at a steady pace. However, all the events have been single day tournaments so far. We’ve yet to have the first 2 day event come through.

All of the current data are for events hosted on Best Coast Pairings, Stats and Ladders and Ecksen. Our thanks goes to these sites for their continued support with our stats projects.

The points size for one day events varies, but 2,000 points appears to be the most common limit at present. However, without any GW events having taken place yet, there are a few at smaller point values.

All of these results have been used in the stats to date. As we gather more data we will begin to split out the Grand Tournaments from the rest of the pack. We may also split out the 2,000 point RTT (single day) events. But we’re happy to be led by the community on this. We would love suggestions as to what you would like to see.

Faction Data

We’ve chosen a minimum limit of 60 games featuring the faction, for them to be included in the statistics. With the games being drawn from single day events, this means it represents a minimum of 20 players per faction. This should provide a varied enough data set in terms of individual skill.

We calculate the win rates by adding the number of game wins and half their number of draws. We then divide the result by the factions total games to give a win percentage.

There are a number of factions who haven’t yet managed the 60 game target. These are;

Beastmen Brayherds – 29 Games Played
Chaos Dwarfs – 23 Games Played
Daemons of Chaos – 35 Games Played
Dark Elves – 36 Games Played
Lizardmen – 26 Games Played
Ogre Kingdoms – 38 Games Played
Skaven – 23 Games Played

I can reveal out of the above, only two of those factions are outside the ideal 45-55% win rate range.

So out of the gate, the stats look very good. Tomb Kings are at 66%, but this is a good result. Especially considering this is a new system and Games Workshop haven’t done any balance updates as yet. Only three factions so far are outside the 45-55% win rate range. With two of those only marginally outside that bracket.

In terms of popularity, the Kingdom of Bretonnia is the most popular faction. Followed by the Orc and Goblin Tribes and Warriors of Chaos, both of which have always been popular in Warhammer Fantasy.

There we have it, is there any specific data you’d like to see included in the future? If so, drop us a comment below.