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Age of Sigmar Player Ratings w/e 7th August 2022

The Age of Sigmar Player Ratings are calculated using the Elo System, most known for creating the Chess Rankings. Players begin with a rating of 1,000 then gain or lose points based on their opponents rating.

The ratings are awarded according to your opponents rating. Beating an opponent with a rating of 1,030 will give you more points than beating an opponent with a rating of 1,010.

Ratings will be given to players who attend a two day event with at least 8 players. Those players must be using 2,000 point armies.

Rankings Update

We talked about Thomas Guan last week, and we’re talking about him again this week. He’s the first player since we’ve started tracking the Elo ratings that has broken the 1,100 mark.

This places him halfway on the way to becoming a Class D player. Classes in Chess (and now AoS) are awarded based on your points:

RatingPlayer Class# of Players
2,500+Grand Master0
2,400-2,499Senior Master0
2,200-2,399National Master0
2,000-2,199Expert0
1,800-1,999Class A0
1,600-1,799Class B0
1,400-1,599Class C0
1,200-1,399Class D0
1,000-1,199Class E342
800-999Class F351
600-799Class G0
400-599Class H0
200-399Class I0
100-199Class J0
Elo Rankings

This Week’s Ratings

Worldwide
Canada
Germany
Italy
Poland
UK
USA

Formula

Here’s how the formula works for the maths geeks among you.

For those wanting to check my maths, the k factor we are using is 20.

Here’s my file:

Age of Sigmar Player Ratings w/e 31st July 2022

The Age of Sigmar Player Ratings are calculated using the Elo System, most known for creating the Chess Rankings. Players begin with a rating of 1,000 then gain or lose points based on their opponents rating.

The ratings are awarded according to your opponents rating. Beating an opponent with a rating of 1,030 will give you more points than beating an opponent with a rating of 1,010.

Ratings will be given to players who attend a two day event with at least 8 players. Those players must be using 2,000 point armies.

Rankings Update

This week we had an additional four GT’s and an additional 111 players joined the world rankings.

Last week, Josh Bennett led the way with a rating of 1,081.4 followed by Thomas Zhennan Guan with 1,065.9. further down and Jeremy Veysseire was sat in joint 5th with 1,050.0.

Why am I telling you about this? Well, this week both Thomas and Jeremy were involved in the same tournament. Would they cross swords? Would it decide a new world number 1? I think I’ve made the answer pretty obvious….

The Crunch

Round 5 of the Boise Cup in Texas, USA. Both Thomas Guan and Jeremy Veysseire having performed well in previous GT’s already this month find themselves with four wins a piece going into round 5. Thomas playing his Stormcast Eternals and Jeremy his Soulblight Gravelords. Both have high ratings at this point compared to the other players around then (Thomas: 1,099.2 and Jeremy: 1,084.5), both have a shot of taking the title and it all comes down to the last game.

Thomas was playing Stormcast Eternals as the Hammers of Sigmar and Jeremy the Soulblight Gravelords as the Legion of Blood. The Result?

This result let Jeremy climb to the top of the AoS Elo rankings after what was the first big name matchup we’ve seen under the new General’s Handbook. The result saw Jeremy take 10.4 points from Thomas and take the top spot.

I was lucky enough to be able to talk to Thomas about this match over twitter and he gave me his thoughts on the game.

I felt pretty good in that matchup playing sce into sbgl on silk nest, the army I chose is very mobile and capable of taking out any kind of target from long distance. The mission felt pretty good to me as well, since my list spreads out really well and can score the mission with aether wings and teleporting units.

The turning point of the game was when I committed both the Protectors and Fulminators to wipe out the Blood Knights. With thunder bolt volley, one unit of longstrikes and 3 Fulminators I was unable to kill Mannfred which led to a cascade of unfortunate events. He brought up the graveguard and was able to use the Purple Sun, Horrorghast, Neferata, Mannfred aura and +1 attack command he was able to wipe out both units.

Luckily I was mobile enough so I was able to put score him on primary but late game I fell behind on tactics and he eventually won.

Jeremy is a challenging opponent that plays to the limits of his list very well and can set up intricate plays at a quick pace. Very enjoyable to play against and hope to match up more in the future.”

This Week’s Ratings

Formula

Here’s how the formula works for the maths geeks among you.

For those wanting to check my maths, the k factor we are using is 20.

Here’s my file:

Age of Sigmar Player Ratings w/e 24th July 2022

The Age of Sigmar Player Ratings are calculated using the Elo System, most known for creating the Chess Rankings. Players begin with a rating of 1,000 then gain or lose points based on their opponents rating.

The ratings are awarded according to your opponents rating. Beating an opponent with a rating of 1,030 will give you more points than beating an opponent with a rating of 1,010.

Ratings will be given to players who attend a two day event with at least 8 players. Those players must be using 2,000 point armies.

This Week’s Ratings

This wee we had an additional four GT’s with one of those involving 102 players!

The top three have all played at least nine games now with Josh Bennett and Thomas Guan winning every game they’ve played.

This week as an example I thought it may help to explain the rankings by looking at one players matches since I started this project.

The Ratings of Josh Bennett

Josh took part in two events in two weeks, the first was the ATC (American Team Championship) Age of Sigmar Team Event where he played four games. This was followed by the Outlaw Open at LSO.

Josh’s Rating (Pre-Game)Opponents NameOpponents Rating ResultJosh’s Rating Change
1,000.0Will Reyes989.4Win+9.7
1,009.7Stuart Gately990.0Win+9.4
1,019.1John Pawak1,000.0Win+9.5
1,028.6Eric Urbas970.6Win+8.3
1,036.9Vince Ptacek990.0Win+8.7
1,045.6Eugene Kahle1,010.0Win+9.0
1,054.6Matt Nguyen 1,020.0Win+9.0
1,063.6Adam Camenisch 1,030.0Win+9.0
1,072.6Dalton Kahle1,030.6Win+8.8
Josh Bennett’s Matches to Date

That gives Josh his final rating of 1,081.4.

Hopefully that explains clearly how the ratings work. Taking Josh’s example, if he’d have lost any of those later games, as his rating is a lot higher he would lose more points than he can be seen gaining. This is because his opponent would benefit from beating a high ranking player.

Formula

Here’s how the formula works for the maths geeks among you.

For those wanting to check my maths, the k factor we are using is 20.

Here’s my file:

Age of Sigmar Player Ratings w/e 17th July 2022

The Age of Sigmar Player Ratings are calculated using the Elo System, most known for creating the Chess Rankings. Players begin with a rating of 1,000 then gain or lose points based on their opponents rating.

Ratings will be given to players who attend a two day event with at least 8 players. Those players must be using 2,000 point armies.

This Week’s Ratings

Another week over, and a particularly busy week with 8 GT’s taking place in the US, Canada and UK. Six players have already attended their second event since we began tracking ratings on 1st July. Thomas Guan now tops the Worldwide table as one of those six players. Thomas is also the only player so far to play two different factions in two GT’s.

The health of AoS can be seen just by looking at these top ten places alone, with all the players using totally different factions from one another to get there.

Worldwide Top 10

Grand Alliance – Top 10’s

Moving on, instead of looking at individual regions or countries, I thought it may be interesting to look at the top 10 for each Grand Alliance. Jeremy and Tyler lead the way in order with their Kharadron Overlords and Stormcast Eternals armies.

Due to the number of events held in the US each week, we’re likely to see the board filled with US flags early doors, however as experience players keep winning tournaments this is likely to change.

The UK leads the way in Chaos…… With Max Soule having a stand out performance with his Slaves to Darkness earning him top Chaos spot. Three Maggotkin players appear inside this top 10, but will this wane as everyone gets used to the new GHB?

Andy Hughes and Michael Rausch share the top spot in the Death Grand Alliance, with Michael putting in a fantastic performance with Ossiarch Bonereapers!

Finally, last but certainly not least we have Destruction. With four Bonesplitterz armies appearing on the list (most of them Drakkfoot Big Stabba spam), it seems the other factions like Ironjawz and Sons are moving out of favour. We also have our first Canadian appearance with Garrett Fierling claiming a joint 6th place with his Sons of Behemat army.

I’m looking to write a html database where you can draw up your results or the results of a competitor when you input some search criteria. But that is some way off at present

Age of Sigmar Player Ratings 16th July 2022

Below is an update to the Age of Sigmar Player Ratings which now reflects all GT’s that have taken place between the start of July and now.

How do you get an Age of Sigmar Player Rating? (The Rules)

To qualify for an Age of Sigmar Player Rating (ASPR), at present you must have played in a two day tournament at some point since 1st July 2022. That tournament must also have involved at least 8 players. These are referred to as Qualifying Tournaments.

Please contact us on thewoehammer@gmail.com if:

  • You have taken part in a qualifying tournament and you don’t see your name inside our Excel document.
  • There is an error with yours or someone else’s score.
  • We have given you the wrong national flag or nation inside either our graphics hosted here or inside the excel document included in this article.

All scores are calculated using the Elo System used in Chess, and based on a k factor of 20.

Correction

I made an error in my last post when calculating the player scores for Kingdom of Skrappa Spill. James Beeden and Tom Moore were given their first round results as a win and draw respectively. This is incorrect, without an opponent to (which I thought I had found last week through guess work) these players cannot be given a rating for that match. This then affects future opponents who play them. This has been corrected and I apologise for the error.

Top 10 Age of Sigmar Player Ratings – Worldwide

In our first week carrying out the ASPR we see a nice mix of countries inside the top 10. However, so far GT’s have only taken place in England, Italy, Scotland and USA. Once more GT’s are held I think we’ll see familiar names begin to climb and hold onto those top 10 positions.

Top 10 Age of Sigmar Player Ratings – Europe

The ASPR for Europe isn’t too dissimilar from the Worldwide at present. But with the exclusion of the three US players this has meant we get to see Andrea Ferrarese, Arrom Wilson and Matthew Brooks included here.

Top 10 Age of Sigmar Player Ratings – By Country

Below is each Country’s top 10 Player Ratings. These are for all Countries with a representative to date, going forwards I will only carry these out by regions. For example, Europe, Oceania and North America. To see a Country’s top 10 you can filter on the excel document attached.

Age of Sigmar Player Ratings - Scotland
Age of Sigmar Player Ratings - England
Age of Sigmar Player Ratings - USA
Age of Sigmar Player Ratings - Italy
Age of Sigmar Player Ratings - Wales

The Excel Document

Age of Sigmar Player Ratings

As you may have spotted in my AoS meta post on Sunday, Woehammer are branching out into Age of Sigmar competitive player ratings.

I will track the rankings of players for all tournaments using the General’s Handbook Pitched Profiles 2022-23 Season 1.

Competitive Player Ratings

The player ratings are based on the Elo system used in Chess*. For those interested in math(s) the K factor we’re using is 20. Players begin with a rating of 1,000 and will gain or lose points based on their opponents rating. For example, someone who beats an opponent with a higher rating than themselves will gain more points. Likewise, a high rated opponent will lose more points if the lose to someone rated less than themselves.

Top 10 Age of Sigmar Player Ratings – Worldwide

Worldwode Age of Sigmar Player Ratings
Woehammer – Worldwide Top 10 Ratings

You can see in our worldwide leaderboard that the English are currently dominating. This is purely due to the fact that 50% of the tournaments so far have taken place in England. As more tournaments take place and players begin to attend more than one tournament, the ratings will really start to show.

I’ve included armies in this first draft, as all the players have only played a single tournament and therefore have only used one army. I will remove these in the future and it will show just the players names.

Top 10 Age of Sigmar Player Ratings – England

England Age of Sigmar player ratings
Woehammer – England Top 10

Speaking of England, here are the Top 10 Age of Sigmar player ratings. Some familiar names are already appearing on this list, such as Freddie Leggett and Baz Norman Jr who were both involved in the tSports Champions events over the last month or so.

Top 10 Age of Sigmar Player Ratings – Scotland

Scotland Age of Sigmar player ratings
Woehammer – Scotland Top 10

England and Scotland are the only two countries with enough players so far to complete a top 10 Age of Sigmar player ratings for them. But in the future top 10’s will be done for regions (Europe, North America etc) rather than countries.

I’ve included the Spreadsheet of all tournament matches that have taken place so far under the new General’s Handbook. This includes the full ratings of all players that have played so far.

What do you think?

Top Three AoS Lists for the South Coast Series July

This is the Top Three AoS Lists for the South Coast Series July that took place in Bournemouth, UK on 9th and 10th July. It involved 40 players from the world over, vying to be crowned champion in a 5 game tournament.

Before I jump into the Top Three AoS Lists, I wanted to remind everyone of our friendly Discord server where you can join in the conversation with the Woehammer crew and suggest articles or series for the website.

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The Top Three AoS Lists

Top Three AoS Lists - 1st Place, Maggotkin of Nurgle

Allegiance: Slaves to Darkness
Damned Legion: Host of the Everchosen (Sixth Circle)
– Mortal Realm: Aqshy
– Grand Strategy: No Place for the Weak
– Triumphs:

Leaders
Archaon the Everchosen (860)**
Aura of Chaos: Tzeentch
– Spell: Binding Damnation
Chaos Lord (120)**
General
– Reaperblade & Daemonbound Steel
– Command Trait: Master of Magic
– Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
– Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
– Spell: Mask of Darkness
Chaos Sorcerer Lord (135)**
– Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
– Spell: Mask of Darkness

Battleline
3 x Varanguard (280)*
Ensorcelled Weapon and Warpsteel Shield
– Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
3 x Varanguard (280)*
Ensorcelled Weapon and Warpsteel Shield
– Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
8 x Iron Golems (75)**
Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch

Units
9 x Untamed Beasts (70)**
Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
9 x Untamed Beasts (70)**
Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch

Endless Spells & Invocations
Chronomantic Cogs (40)
Purple Sun of Shyish (70)

Core Battalions
*Bounty Hunters
**Battle Regiment

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 88
Drops: 3

Brett: A return of a list that became common in AoS 2.0 with Archaon and Varanguard taking the tournament 5/0. Really demonstrates just how Archaon can dominate a lot of the board but don’t discount the Endless Spells either. With 3 wizards in the list (thanks to Arcane Tome) they are always going to be an option. Cogs offering rerolls for casters making Purple Sun, with it’s debuffs and wound potential more reliable, much more reliable.. Marking Archaon with Aura of Chaos – Tzeentch is a great way to increase his and the armies durability. So this list is all about durability and being hard to shift. Making the Varanguard Bounty Hunters improves one of their weaknesses (damage output) and is a solid move for removing MSU Galletian Veteran units. With both the Iron Golems (keep them stationary on a home objective in cover) and Untamed Beasts there are plenty of Galletian Veteran units in the army and 2 teleports (Mask of Darkness) to get them where they need to be. 6″ pregame move and the ability to run and charge make the Untamed Beasts unpredictable with a very long threat range. It would be great to see how the list plays into Nighthaunt. A very solid performance against some of the newer books we can only assume that Archaon wrecked face. 5/0 is an amazing performance with one of the older books and a range of characters that everyone knows well.

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Allegiance: Nighthaunt
Procession: Scarlet Doom
– Grand Strategy: Show of Dominance
– Triumphs: Bloodthirsty

Leaders
Krulghast Cruciator (150)**
General
– Command Trait: Ruler of the Spirit Hosts
Awlrach the Drowner (175)**
Guardian of Souls (150)**
Lore of the Underworlds: Seal of Shyish
Spirit Torment (115)***
Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
– Lore of the Underworlds: Shademist
Spirit Torment (115)***

Battleline
30 x Bladegheist Revenants (525)*
Reinforced x 2
20 x Bladegheist Revenants (350)*
Reinforced x 1
10 x Bladegheist Revenants (175)***
3 x Spirit Hosts (125)**

Units
4 x Myrmourn Banshees (105)***

Core Battalions
*Expert Conquerors
**Battle Regiment
***Battle Regiment

Total: 1985 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 105
Drops: 4

Brett: What a horrifying list to face. Multiple small heroes including 3 that return models every turn and some of the best data sheets in the book (Bladegheist and Banshees). On top of that Krulghast is there to reduce the damage of incoming attacks. The big block of Bladegheist is nightmarish, on the charge they are putting out 90 attacks. This list is a strong 5/0 contender but I wonder about the battalions.

We more often see larger units of Bladegheist in Bounty Hunters but there are good reason to use Expert Conquerors. It would be very hard to take an objective off 30 Bladegheist backed by a Spirit Torment or Guardian and Banshees to steal spells. It would be interesting to see Awlach in action with this force offering a solid teleport ability throughout the game. The bigger blocks of Bladegheist would be a nasty threat even without their support heroes or after missing a charge. Taking down DoK confirms the horde meta is here. Notable that the list only lost to Sylvaneth.

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Top Three AoS Lists - 3rd place, Legion of the First Prince

Allegiance: Sylvaneth
Glade: Heartwood
– Season of War: The Reaping
– Mortal Realm: Ghyran
– Grand Strategy: Take What’s Theirs
– Triumphs: Indomitable

Leaders
Alarielle the Everqueen (840)*
Arch-Revenant (120)*
General
– Command Trait: Warsinger
– Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
– Lore of the Deepwood: Treesong

Battleline
6 x Kurnoth Hunters with Kurnoth Greatbows (460)*
Reinforced x 1
5 x Tree-Revenants (110)*
5 x Tree-Revenants (110)*

Units
3 x Revenant Seekers (235)*

Endless Spells & Invocations
Chronomantic Cogs (40)
Spiteswarm Hive (40)

Core Battalions
*Battle Regiment

Total: 1955 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 87
Drops: 1

Brett: Pregame move, teleports and movement buffs, all kinds of shenanigans are possible with this list including the endless spells. Crucially you need to get the best from (buffed) Alarielle and the Kurnoth (1300 pts – you have to) but with the ability to deploy aggressively, then redeploy, and the change away from one drop lists there are some real benefits to being Sylvaneth. The only loss (to Slaves to Darkness) would have been a very interesting with Archaon facing Alarielle in a titanic struggle. Varanguard are well matched to Kurnoth as well. Long range shooting is still a problem for a lot of lists notably Nighthaunt, Daughters of Kaine and Beasts. The Kurnoth bring some serious hurt, particularly with an Arch-Revenant giving +1 to wound rolls, and Alarielle only adds to the pain. The tree-revenants provide some screening and the ability later in the game to teleport away as well. Great performance with the new book and some familiar faces, it’s great to see a podium finish so soon after release.

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14th Place, Blades of Khorne

Army Faction: Fyreslayers
Subfaction: Greyfyrd
– Grand Strategy: Take What’s Theirs
– Triumph: Bloodthirsty

LEADERS
Battlesmith (150)**
Artefacts of Power: Nulsidian Icon
Auric Runefather (125)**
General
– Command Traits: Blood of the Berzerker
– Artefacts of Power: Axe of Grimnir
Auric Runeson on Magmadroth (320)**
Wyrmslayer Javelins
– Artefacts of Power: Master Rune of Unbreakable Resolve
– Mount Traits: Coal-heart Ancient

BATTLELINE
Hearthguard Berzerkers (480)*
Karl
– Berzerker Broadaxe
Vulkite Berzerkers with Bladed Slingshields (160)*
Hornblower of Grimnir
– Karl
– Fyresteel War-pick and Bladed Slingshield
Vulkite Berzerkers with Bladed Slingshields (160)*
Hornblower of Grimnir
– Fyresteel War-pick and Bladed Slingshield

OTHER
Gotrek Gurnisson (485)**
Grimwrath Berzerker (105)**
Artefacts of Power: Draught of Magmalt Ale

CORE BATTALIONS
*Expert Conquerors
**Warlord

TOTAL POINTS: 1985/2000

Brett: Eschewing the more popular Magmadroth builds comes at cost but what a thematic list this is. A tide of marking norse dwarves with your favourite hero from the before times (Gotrek) ready to wreck pretty much everybody. And particularly rats, which for the most part don’t move too quickly so were vulnerable to what this list brings. 3/5 is great with an off meta list like this one. Fyreslayers are let down by their 4″ move and they still seem a little expensive per unit. The battle against Maggotkin would have been a stand out since both are slow moving but against a Great Unclean One or Glottkin I think this list is a little short of firepower.

The overall results show that points matter still with both 1 and 2 being the highest point scorers, next highest is 8th though. At least within this tournaments catchment there is a very healthy meta with 8 different factions in the top 10. Seraphon and Daughters of Khaine are unusually low with 2 Sylvaneth, with different subfactions, in the top 5. Interesting to watch the rest of the performances across the weekend to see if this is a prelude to the Wood Elves rising. Don’t picnic too close to the trees just in case?

Final Tournament Placings

Top 10 Tournament Players Based on Elo Ratings